Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/11/2002 09:47 AM House RLS

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SB 222-REQUIRE SLOW DRIVERS TO PULL OVER                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOTT announced that the next  order of business would be CS                                                               
FOR SENATE BILL  NO. 222(FIN), "An Act relating  to certain motor                                                               
vehicles that are required to yield to following traffic."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease from 10:06 a.m. to 10:10 a.m.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1002                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE moved to  adopt Version 22-LS0611\X as the                                                               
working  document.   There  being  no  objection, Version  X  was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SARA  WRIGHT,   Staff  to  Senator  Dave   Donley,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented SB  222 on  behalf of  the sponsor.   Ms.                                                               
Wright  explained   that  current  Alaska   regulations  prohibit                                                               
traffic traveling slower than the  posted speed limit with a line                                                               
of five  or more vehicles  [behind the slow driver].   Therefore,                                                               
SB  222 places  this regulation  in statute  and raises  the fine                                                               
from $30  to $100.   With  the cooperation  of the  Department of                                                               
Transportation   &  Public   Facilities   it  increases   signage                                                               
informing motorists of the existing regulation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. WRIGHT turned  to Version X, and informed  the committee that                                                               
Senator Donley doesn't support Section  2, which was added by the                                                               
House  Finance  Committee.   She  noted  that the  Department  of                                                               
Public  Safety is  present  to answer  questions  with regard  to                                                               
Senator Donley's opposition.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1076                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  inquired as  to the  difference between                                                               
Version T and Version X.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  related his belief that  the difference is                                                               
the reference  to traveling at a  speed five or more  miles below                                                               
the speed limit.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOTT  specified  that  the   difference  between  the  two                                                               
versions is encompassed in Section 1(b).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1114                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JULIA  GRIMES, Lieutenant,  Division  of  Alaska State  Troopers,                                                               
Department of Public Safety  (DPS), testified via teleconference.                                                               
She turned  to Section 2  and asked whether the  sponsor's intent                                                               
is to  merely eliminate the  double fines if someone  exceeds the                                                               
reduced  work   zone  speed  limit,   or  is  the   intention  to                                                               
automatically restore  the originally posted speed  limit when no                                                               
workers are present in the work zone.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  answered with his understanding  that it's                                                               
an attempt to  eliminate double fines and return the  zone to the                                                               
normal speed limit when no workers are present in the work zone.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  surmised then that this  exemption from                                                               
double fines would only apply to this violation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1231                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section-Juneau,  Criminal  Division,  Department  of  Law  (DOL),                                                               
related  her  belief  that  Section   2  doubles  the  fines  for                                                               
violations  in  work  zones.   This  amendment  would  limit  the                                                               
violation  to cases  in which  workers are  present.   Therefore,                                                               
there is  concern with regard to  long work zones.   She posed an                                                               
example in  which one is speeding  at mile one -  where there are                                                               
no  workers -  but there  are workers  at mile  three; she  asked                                                               
whether the  [double fine] would  apply.  She expressed  the need                                                               
for clarification on that matter.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE noted that much of  the road work is done in                                                               
the  summer, which  is a  high  traffic time.   Furthermore,  the                                                               
roads are often  in bad shape and traveling  the regularly posted                                                               
speed after the  work zone may still place the  driver and others                                                               
in danger.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER pointed out that  there is another law, the                                                               
basic speed law,  that covers such situations.  One  may never go                                                               
faster than  the conditions of  the road or  circumstances allow,                                                               
no matter the  posted speed limit.  This  [section] merely refers                                                               
to the double  fines and thus all [other] violations  that may or                                                               
may not occur remain in  effect.  Representative Porter said that                                                               
clarification  could  be  achieved  by  inserting  the  following                                                               
language:    "workers  present  anywhere  in  the  area  that  is                                                               
posted".                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1329                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BERKOWITZ  noted   that  often  work/construction                                                               
zones have  posted speed limits  for the  zone itself.   From his                                                               
experience,  proving that  workers were  present invites  another                                                               
component  of  proof  for  the  prosecution.   There  is  a  wide                                                               
variation  in regard  to  what "present"  means.   Therefore,  he                                                               
suggested tying  the double fine  to something like  the presence                                                               
of equipment.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MORGAN   recalled  his   time  working   in  road                                                               
construction,  and  noted  his   agreement  with  Section  2  [as                                                               
specified in Version X].  He  stressed the need to drive slow and                                                               
pay attention in construction zones.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE mentioned that  laws such [as double fines                                                               
in work  zones] serve as a  deterrent.  Such laws  caution people                                                               
that  there  will  be  increased   penalties  for  violations  in                                                               
construction zones.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1506                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  inquired as  to how  the public  would know                                                               
when people  are working in the  construction zone.  In  order to                                                               
utilize this exemption, will it  be necessary to post work hours,                                                               
he asked.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WRIGHT said  that  according to  the  Alaska Traffic  Manual                                                               
Supplement,  signage  won't  be  placed  where  conditions  don't                                                               
warrant and thus are removed  or covered when [unsafe] conditions                                                               
cease to exist.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOTT  posed a  situation in  which one  is driving  a motor                                                               
home on  a highway in rural  Alaska with a posted  speed limit of                                                               
55 miles per  hour (mph).  If  the motor home is  traveling at 55                                                               
mph and there are five vehicles  behind the motor home, would the                                                               
motor home be required to pull over.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. WRIGHT replied no.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1611                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING remarked  that  keeping  Section 2  would                                                               
potentially  result in  a less  safe situation  because it  makes                                                               
[the  double   fines]  applicable   when  workers   are  present.                                                               
Therefore,  he  surmised  that elimination  of  Section  2  would                                                               
result  in a  higher  standard, and  therefore safer  conditions.                                                               
Representative Kohring moved the following conceptual amendment:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 2,                                                                                                            
         Delete "and to fines committed in highway work                                                                         
     zones"                                                                                                                     
          Delete Section 2                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  highlighted that the deletion  of Section                                                               
2 doesn't  eliminate the double  fines because that  is currently                                                               
in law.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WRIGHT,  in   response  to  Chair  Kott,   agreed  that  the                                                               
aforementioned  conceptual  amendment   is  consistent  with  the                                                               
sponsor's intent.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOTT  asked  if  there was  objection  to  the  conceptual                                                               
amendment.  There was no  objection, and therefore the conceptual                                                               
amendment was adopted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1740                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  returned to  Section 1, and  noted that                                                               
he is a bit  perplexed by the 5 or more miles  per hour below the                                                               
posted speed  limit.  He posed  a situation in which  there was a                                                               
55 mph  speed limit and there  is someone driving at  that speed.                                                               
He recalled  that with radar guns  there is a 10  percent buffer.                                                               
Therefore, if  someone is pulled over  for traveling 50 mph  in a                                                               
55 mph  zone, it would seem  that the speed would  be within that                                                               
10 percent  buffer.  Representative Berkowitz  characterized that                                                               
as  problematic from  the proof  perspective.   He expressed  the                                                               
need for a more discretionary way of phrasing [the violation].                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PORTER remarked  that he  believes Representative                                                               
Berkowitz is  confusing law enforcement tolerances  with the law.                                                               
"The law enforcement tolerance has to  be based on the law in the                                                               
first place," he  said.  Therefore, he suggested  leaving the law                                                               
as it is.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1810                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE moved to report  HCS CSSB 222, Version 22-                                                               
LS0611\X,   as  amended   out   of   committee  with   individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no  objection, HCS  CSSB  222(RLS) was  reported  from the  House                                                               
Rules Standing Committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

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